I have built a pair of Model 19's. Then I bi-amped them. Is there a better altec arrangement for home use? Opera and classical for this listener.
thanks for any input.
I have built a pair of Model 19's. Then I bi-amped them. Is there a better altec arrangement for home use? Opera and classical for this listener.
thanks for any input.
When you ask for a "better Altec arrangement for home use," are you referring to a different way to set up the Altec 19, or are you referring to another Altec speaker system altogether?
There are several ways to bring much better sound out of the Model 19. If that is what you are referring to, let us know.
GeeDeeEmm
Hi GD. I would certainly start with suggestions on improving the Model 19. Even a new enclosure would be interesting.
thanks.
Hi Les -
Well, there are two lines of thought regarding the Model 19/other Altec, the majority of it centering on equalizing the horn response via 1) active eq, or 2) passive crossover eq. Big changes. Rather than opine on a lot of stuff that is actually my casual hobby and not a specialty, let the guys who know what they are talking about do the work:
Look at my new babies...Altec 846Bs w/EV Tweeters!!
http://wajonaudio.webs.com/Voice%20o...%20theatre.pdf
These two articles will give you the basics of the whole horn eq process and the many directions that branch off from there. With these two as basic starting points, you will find literally tons of reference material, so get ready.
Hope this helps.
GeeDeeEmm
Les,
As I begin the Model 19 build journey, i also have questions.
When you say bi-amp , are you using a DSP based or other "electronic crossover"?
If so, I'm not sure you are hearing the smoothest response the 811b can provide. If I understand correctly, most loudspeakers need a bit of massaging to their mechanical response to sound their best. I'm not sure an electronic crossover will get us there 100%.
During a previous build (GR Research LS9), I spoke to Danny the designer about bi-amping using an electronic crossover. He said there was a couple of circuits in the standard passive crossover that could not be duplicated electronically. Then tons of engineering techno babble went over my head. I should have taken notes.
I have 19's, 8g's and H's, with some music they all out do each other. I would think the ultimate would be a modern build with altec components. I for one would love to hear dual 416's in a very large cabinet with 311's and some 288's...
I would go for analogue active XO.Originally Posted by gdmoore28
There's been numerous threads on how to tweak a cab, 811 individually or as a speaker system on several forums, so to get you started: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=modifying+altec+m-19+
Personally, as well as a few others, prefer a bit bigger cab tuned lower for the [near] 'full-range' response required for symphonies with this one having the best documented build details IIRC:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/187508-altec-416b-mltl-design-gm.html
GM
Loud is Beautiful if it's Clean! As always though, the usual disclaimers apply to this post's contents.
Other than power handling, what's the benefit of two woofers side by side?
Two woofers in close proximity on the same baffle gives you 3-6 decibel increase in output. In effect it should mean a combined woofer efficiency somewhere around 102db at 1 watt @ 1 meter from around 50hz up to crossover point. Less resistance needed in the compression driver circuit so the crossover would have to be reworked I would think.
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